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老钱: 美国大选,选谁? (一)不要搞社会主义 [复制链接]

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只看该作者 202楼  发表于: 2012-10-15
引用第201楼游客于2012-10-15 14:01发表的  : 5IG-~jzCLb  
不管老钱对不对,老钱发起这个讨论,大家来关心美国的前途,是个好事。 }GIt!PG  
“与其看老太太发狂,还不如来争吵欧巴马和罗姆尼的事吧。“ {c0`Um3&>  
对!这才叫本末倒置。 Ea=P2:3*  
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拜托别把这些烂文章翻出来了,建议老钱像喇叭花学习学习再写文章。这文章没法看一点价值都没有。只能挑起无端的矛盾。
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不管老钱对不对,老钱发起这个讨论,大家来关心美国的前途,是个好事。 :a)u&g@G  
“与其看老太太发狂,还不如来争吵欧巴马和罗姆尼的事吧。“ kSh( u  
对!这才叫本末倒置。
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只看该作者 200楼  发表于: 2012-10-10 , 编辑
也应以史为鉴.  俄国和中国革命就是源起于多数人的极端贫困.  照共和党这一味的cut下去,广大穷人没了活头,”揭竿而起”, 就等着美国”秋收起义”吧!  应该比老毛那时容易: 这边遍地是枪!  
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也应以史为鉴.  俄国和中国革命就是源起于多数人的极端贫困.  照共和党这一味的cut下去,广大穷人没了活头,”揭竿而起”, 就等着美国”秋收起义”吧!  应该比老毛那时容易: 这边遍地是枪!  
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只看该作者 198楼  发表于: 2012-10-05
引用第197楼一剪梅于2012-10-05 15:41发表的  :
Exctly! Such a simple math! Some people can't stand anybody coming up any alternative to save Medicare. I wonder why they hate Medicare so much! Don't they forget they are OY({.uVdX  
middle class and they can not afford medical care on their own when they re old and useless? They don't know that insurance companies will fnd every way possible to reject the old people because they're not profiitable? Don't they understand education can't be run purly by profiting private companies, neither can medical care for elderly? This is not rocket science. But if one is determined to despise working class and  elderly, even though one day he himself will be old, there is nothing you can do. w0unS`\4  
   How about let the rich pay higher income  tax, get rid of the illegals, stop the baby-popping welfare reward, stop meddling midlle east, stop getting into more meaningless wars, so the middle class and their employers can pay lower income  tax, and put the income tax savings into higher Medicare tax YS_; OFsd  
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When so many people like LZ who are getting Medicare benefit NOW and still trying to trash Medicare, where do you think it will go?
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引用第196楼游客于2012-10-05 07:33发表的 : :f}9($  
Medicare tax rate can be adjusted and it is not fixed.
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Exctly! Such a simple math! Some people can't stand anybody coming up any alternative to save Medicare. I wonder why they hate Medicare so much! Don't they forget they are ,3p~w5C/+[  
middle class and they can not afford medical care on their own when they re old and useless? They don't know that insurance companies will fnd every way possible to reject the old people because they're not profiitable? Don't they understand education can't be run purly by profiting private companies, neither can medical care for elderly? This is not rocket science. But if one is determined to despise working class and  elderly, even though one day he himself will be old, there is nothing you can do. T| V:$D'  
   How about let the rich pay higher income  tax, get rid of the illegals, stop the baby-popping welfare reward, stop meddling midlle east, stop getting into more meaningless wars, so the middle class and their employers can pay lower income  tax, and put the income tax savings into higher Medicare tax 2s&*  
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只看该作者 196楼  发表于: 2012-10-05
Medicare tax rate can be adjusted and it is not fixed. ]b\WaS8I  
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引用第194楼游客于2012-10-04 09:57发表的  :
Here is some facts about Medicare, according to this CNN article, "Analysts at the Urban Institute calculate that lifetime Medicare benefits will be worth over $500,000 for a mid-career couple today" (http://money.cnn.com/2012/10/02/pf/election-medicare.moneymag/index.html?iid=HP_Highlight).  Now assume a couple earns $200,000/year (that's very high for most people) and worked for 40 years.  at 2.9% Medicare tax rate,  that would be $232,000, Less than half of the expected payout.  For a low income family, the gap would be even bigger!  Anyone who has a financial sense would agree that this is unsustainable.  Can you just do it by cutting doctors and hospital payment?  No.  if you cut the payment in half, I am sure most doctors will not see any Medicare patient since the payment will be below their cost.  So the other way is to cut benefit which is not popular.  Obama is exploiting this without telling the truth about the future cost! F> Mr<k=@;  
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只看该作者 194楼  发表于: 2012-10-04
引用第193楼匿名于2012-10-03 22:31发表的  :
同意狍子。刚看完DEBAT,基本的评论是得分:R-65:O:35。
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Here is some facts about Medicare, according to this CNN article, "Analysts at the Urban Institute calculate that lifetime Medicare benefits will be worth over $500,000 for a mid-career couple today" (http://money.cnn.com/2012/10/02/pf/election-medicare.moneymag/index.html?iid=HP_Highlight).  Now assume a couple earns $200,000/year (that's very high for most people) and worked for 40 years.  at 2.9% Medicare tax rate,  that would be $232,000, Less than half of the expected payout.  For a low income family, the gap would be even bigger!  Anyone who has a financial sense would agree that this is unsustainable.  Can you just do it by cutting doctors and hospital payment?  No.  if you cut the payment in half, I am sure most doctors will not see any Medicare patient since the payment will be below their cost.  So the other way is to cut benefit which is not popular.  Obama is exploiting this without telling the truth about the future cost!
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只看该作者 193楼  发表于: 2012-10-03 , 编辑
引用第192楼狍子于2012-10-03 22:18发表的 : ?=C?3R  
老钱好文! 不过关于机会平等还是分配平等问题, 弱势群体倾向后者是个必然. 所以立场问题, 难有对错之分.
不过就经济而言, 从今晚的DEBAT看, 4 年的on job 培训, sky high 财政赤字学费, 这马好像没有一点长进! ` #!~+  
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同意狍子。刚看完DEBAT,基本的评论是得分:R-65:O:35。 +1`Zu$|  
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