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只看该作者 182楼  发表于: 2012-10-02
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Thanks for the enlightment. You are absolutely right. Obama reduced the deficit three years in a row since he took over office: QnX(V[  
2009   $1413 Billion Deficit                        $1509.62 Billion Deficit       D D D }f7j 8py  
2010   $1294 Billion Deficit                        $1360.67 Billion Deficit       D D D 0Pi:N{x8  
2011   $1299 Billion Deficit                        $1324.16 Billion Deficit       D D R 8Kk(8a&v  
2012   $1100 Billion Deficit                        $1100 Billion Deficit             D D R liz~7RY4  
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Maybe not big enough. With much lower tax revenue and huge unemployment induced poverty, it's not easy to reduce the deficit. Any deficit reduction  deserves a huge applaud.
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引用第174楼游客于2012-10-02 14:55发表的  :
Thank you very much for the information. If a person is smarter enough, he should be able to get How Democrat and Republic have been doing on the national deficient:
Under Bush, the deficient hs been increased from Clinton's SURPLUS of $127.3 B in 2001 to $1413 B in 2009. And Obama has reduced deficient from Bush's $1413 B in 2009 to $1011B in 2012. Qc{RaMwD  
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I am not defending Bush, he was a terrible spender.  That's I voted for O in 08.  But Obama is even worse.  He didn't do anything with the budget in his 2009 and 2010 fiscal years where he has the full control of the government branches.  He didn't veto any spending bills in 2011 and 2012.  Can you realy claim he is fiscal responsible?  NOOOOOO!  That's why we need vote him out and send a clear message that deficit spender will pay for it with their political life. ]y)Q!J )Q  
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只看该作者 180楼  发表于: 2012-10-02
引用第178楼游客于2012-10-02 15:20发表的  :
Why one always thinks to take it from someone and give to another one?  Would anyone agree to pay more for less service?  That is wealth distribution and soci alism. 劫富济贫 policy will not work for long until the riches disappears either they lose the incentives to work or flee the country.
I think we should use the basic financial and accounting rules, everyone gets what they paid for.  Run it truly like an insurance policy.  your pay out will be based on your policy premium and the age your join.  I am sure, there is no private insurance company, even for non profit, will write such an policy like SS and Medicare where payout is greater than revenue.  Only our selfish politicians do it for their own political agenda and for buying votes. aKFA&Xnsl  
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Why should the middle class sacrifice and the rich do not? It is kind of fare if middle class do not have to pay. If you do so, there would be more people without food.
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引用第177楼游客于2012-10-02 15:17发表的  : 6 LC*X  
在168 华人社区为总统候选人拉选票有点不合时宜。Georgia投Obama和Romney的票的比例基本上是25:75。即使全Georgia的华人都去投Obama的票,最多把比例变成26:74,最终结果还是0/16。即使所有的华人都不去投票,Romney还是能拿走全部的16票。这就是为什么两个竞选团队都不浪费时间来关心Georgia选民声音的原因。 "[76>\'H  
这种早就知道结果的选举,大家不是不知道,哪来这么大的兴趣来讨论谁应当当选。 o}<}zTU  
有这精力,好好研究一下参议员、众议员、地方官员候选人以及州、County、地方待投法案,认真去行使你的公民投票权。至于投票时的第一项,总统府总统搭档,你就是闭着眼睛用脚投也不会投错。 9k1n-p o  
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每个公民都有投票的权利和责任。即使是参议员、众议员、地方官员候选人我们也不会投Romney。
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引用第176楼游客于2012-10-02 15:05发表的  :
One simple change would save the SS, remove the CAP,  and keep the payout formula. Remove the Cap so high earners pay the same rate of SS as low earners. They could get more benefit but use the same formula as what some $100K eaners would get. However, I do not think we could pass the law since rich are so powerful in this country. 6Lw34R  
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Why one always thinks to take it from someone and give to another one?  Would anyone agree to pay more for less service?  That is wealth distribution and soci alism. 劫富济贫 policy will not work for long until the riches disappears either they lose the incentives to work or flee the country. ;o;P2}zD  
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I think we should use the basic financial and accounting rules, everyone gets what they paid for.  Run it truly like an insurance policy.  your pay out will be based on your policy premium and the age your join.  I am sure, there is no private insurance company, even for non profit, will write such an policy like SS and Medicare where payout is greater than revenue.  Only our selfish politicians do it for their own political agenda and for buying votes.
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只看该作者 177楼  发表于: 2012-10-02
在168 华人社区为总统候选人拉选票有点不合时宜。Georgia投Obama和Romney的票的比例基本上是25:75。即使全Georgia的华人都去投Obama的票,最多把比例变成26:74,最终结果还是0/16。即使所有的华人都不去投票,Romney还是能拿走全部的16票。这就是为什么两个竞选团队都不浪费时间来关心Georgia选民声音的原因。 j;@7V4'  
这种早就知道结果的选举,大家不是不知道,哪来这么大的兴趣来讨论谁应当当选。 |r_S2)zH9m  
有这精力,好好研究一下参议员、众议员、地方官员候选人以及州、County、地方待投法案,认真去行使你的公民投票权。至于投票时的第一项,总统府总统搭档,你就是闭着眼睛用脚投也不会投错。 *L> gZ`Q  
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引用第165楼游客于2012-10-02 11:16发表的  :
There is a lot of government waste there.  I am sure we can cut over 20% government employees, make the rest 80% work half as hard as private company employees and we will have higher productivity.
In terms of SS and Medicare, any honest person will agree that it can't go on forever as it is now.  they have to be changed since the country just can't afford it.  The only thing is how to change it so that it makes minimum impact on the retirees.  Any politician who promises no cut in SS and Medicare is either lying to the public or not knowing what he is talking about. Romney’s running mate Paul Ryan is talking about these programs.  I will give him credit for starting the debate.  Not like Obama who is tring to hide the truth and get himself reelected. :n%KHen3\  
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One simple change would save the SS, remove the CAP,  and keep the payout formula. Remove the Cap so high earners pay the same rate of SS as low earners. They could get more benefit but use the same formula as what some $100K eaners would get. However, I do not think we could pass the law since rich are so powerful in this country.
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只看该作者 175楼  发表于: 2012-10-02
引用第172楼游客于2012-10-02 14:19发表的  :
This what I posted on another thread:
His health care plan is beyond the country can afford. Please look at Greece, Spain and Italy, when a leader ignores the basic principle of budgeting, the long term effect is to detroy the country fiscally and  the people in that country will suffer in the future. Of course, I also love to get handout without working for it. But is it sustainable??
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这些都是前共和党执政时留下的后遗症,不应该算到奥巴马身上。如果共和党再执政会更糟糕。美国就真的是水深火热了。
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引用第172楼游客于2012-10-02 14:19发表的  : G)5w_^&%  
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Thank you very much for the information. If a person is smarter enough, he should be able to get How Democrat and Republic have been doing on the national deficient: _j{^I^P  
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Under Bush, the deficient hs been increased from Clinton's SURPLUS of $127.3 B in 2001 to $1413 B in 2009. And Obama has reduced deficient from Bush's $1413 B in 2009 to $1011B in 2012. o C0K!{R*  
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YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER. The budget is defined one year before. 2001 budget has been decided in 2000 When Clicnton is in office and Bush could not change it even he is in office. Same as in 2009, Bush's government decided the budget for 2009 and Obama could not change it even he is in office. P0O5CaR  
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I always heard some republic saying Republic is better for economy. Both jobs created and stock market performance, Democrat presidency has much better than Republic. These are cold number you could find online. D?;8bI%"  
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How was the stock market performed under Bush's 8 years? I guess many here could still remember. How much the stock market has been up since Obama took office? I guess many here know it from their own portfolio. UjLZ!-}  
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2001   $127.3 Billion Surplus                    $164.9 Billion Surplus         R D R P5 G M s  
2002    $157.8 Billion Deficit                      $201.02 Billion Deficit         R D R XBQ]A89G  
2003   $377.6 Billion Deficit                       $470.82 Billion Deficit         R R R Zz!0|-\  
2004   $413 Billion Deficit                           $501.21 Billion Deficit         R R R 9pAklD4  
2005   $318 Billion Deficit                          $373.24 Billion Deficit         R R R 3[8F:I0UL  
2006   $248 Billion Deficit                          $282.14 Billion Deficit         R R R On%21L;JG  
2007   $161 Billion Deficit                          $178.1 Billion Deficit            R D D H}m%=?y@  
2008   $459 Billion Deficit                          $488.82 Billion Deficit         R D D QC@nRy8%  
2009   $1413 Billion Deficit                        $1509.62 Billion Deficit       D D D ]pUf[^4  
2010   $1294 Billion Deficit                        $1360.67 Billion Deficit       D D D 0I6[`*|SX  
2011   $1299 Billion Deficit                        $1324.16 Billion Deficit       D D R a1V+doC  
2012   $1100 Billion Deficit                        $1100 Billion Deficit             D D R ap|7./yg  
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Romney 经常说一些不可能的事情来取悦选民,比如减税: 8]U;2H/z  
"We need policies such as 20 percent across-the-board cuts in tax rates, sensible regulation, and open markets that create a growing economy" -- Mitt Romney `w@8i[2J  
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"The math behind how Romney can give everyone a 20% tax cut without bankrupting the government is just way too advanced for us regular folk to understand. It's unfathomably complex, like string theory. You'd have to grasp that the universe is actually 11 coexistent dimensions, eight of which is where Romney shelters his wealth." -- Stephen Colbert
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